“If you're walking with your lady on the sidewalk, I still
like to see a man walking street-side, to protect the lady from traffic. I grew
up with that, and I hate to see something like that get lost. I still like to
see that a man opens the door. I like those touches of chivalry that are fast
disappearing.” (qtd. By David Pang, Esquire)
Now, Betty White is the grand matriarch of everything in my
opinion. A lady of great humor; humble and wise all at the same time. She said
it, so it must be true for all women, right?
Not so fast. There is one question that remains to be answered and
defined before chivalry in its true form could ever be revived, and that is: Do
we want it?
There is a modern mess of feminism alive and well today,
light years removed from the angry screaming feminists of the mid century. Our mothers and grandmothers demanded equal
pay, equal and fair treatment. They
abandoned the skirt, burned the bras, and wanted to be on the level of every
man in their lives, whether colleague or husband. The truth is, this is 2012
and we have transcended such basic needs through accomplishment. Today, a woman
doesn’t demand equality or to be taken seriously because we’ve achieved that.
Today a woman demands something far more complex. We don’t need a man. We
demand more independence, and many women even choose to raise children on their
own. We have degrees, personal incomes, and a sense of freedom unmatched by
previous generations. We are fearless and self-providing and we don’t need a
man for anything! We have MOXIE,
gentlemen. Oh, and could you please open that door for me?
SAY WHAT?
It’s no wonder that men today are utterly confused. We tell
them to leave us to our own outstanding devices in the same breath in which we
demand the common courtesies of yester-year. In a poll conducted by Redbook
Magazine featured in an editorial of the Chicago Tribune, over 500 women were
asked “Are feminism and chivalry compatible?” Four out of five of those polled believed that
men should still be opening doors for women.
Susan Korones-Gifford, articles editor at Redbook answers: "Feminists
are focusing on bigger issues, but that doesn't mean that men shouldn't open
doors for women, or women for men. It's just polite. Manners should transcend
gender." (“Chivalry Counts”)
So what do women expect? The question is dicey, given the
fact that a range of factors may influence the presence or absence of chivalry
from one man to the next. It seems that
the biggest surprise I have found to date in my research is that women still
want chivalrous men, yet too much is, well, too much. Where does she draw the
line in the sand, and how the heck is a man supposed to decipher it?
The answer still requires a military-grade descrambling device, but so far I think that a woman still wants to be treated like a lady, regardless of her stance on feminism or independence. Did chivalry disappear as a result of a few rounds of feminist led re-training, or has it been fading for decades in general? Still to be researched is a possible connection of single parenting, or that of geographical upbringing.
The answer still requires a military-grade descrambling device, but so far I think that a woman still wants to be treated like a lady, regardless of her stance on feminism or independence. Did chivalry disappear as a result of a few rounds of feminist led re-training, or has it been fading for decades in general? Still to be researched is a possible connection of single parenting, or that of geographical upbringing.
Sources:
My current research has been a result of a lack of research. Finding others who have posed the same questions has proven to be difficult, if looking beyond blogs and personal websites. It’s possible that this is not such a big issue to most. The two sources mentioned below have helped to begin answering my questions about why there is an absence in classic chivalry, how it is defined today, and who expects it.
The first is an article from Esquire Magazine written by David Pang. It includes his interview with Betty White, actress and all-around awesome lady. He asks her questions on chivalry, and gets some answers that are not in her normal comedic form. Instead, they are built of memories her husband gave her when he demonstrated great chivalry in all situations. Good Stuff.
My second source is a rather short blip featured in the Chicago Tribune. The author meets with Redbook magazine editor Susan Korones-Gifford, who speaks about a telephone survey they gave their readers about feminism and its relationship to chivalry. In a nut-shell, she found that feminism paved the way for chivalry's demise in a way, but that women still expect some degree of it anyway.
I thought that her interview provided some thought provoking questions on feminism as a whole, such as Why the overkill on it, and when is it a fulfilling enough level of equality to just let it go?
My current research has been a result of a lack of research. Finding others who have posed the same questions has proven to be difficult, if looking beyond blogs and personal websites. It’s possible that this is not such a big issue to most. The two sources mentioned below have helped to begin answering my questions about why there is an absence in classic chivalry, how it is defined today, and who expects it.
The first is an article from Esquire Magazine written by David Pang. It includes his interview with Betty White, actress and all-around awesome lady. He asks her questions on chivalry, and gets some answers that are not in her normal comedic form. Instead, they are built of memories her husband gave her when he demonstrated great chivalry in all situations. Good Stuff.
My second source is a rather short blip featured in the Chicago Tribune. The author meets with Redbook magazine editor Susan Korones-Gifford, who speaks about a telephone survey they gave their readers about feminism and its relationship to chivalry. In a nut-shell, she found that feminism paved the way for chivalry's demise in a way, but that women still expect some degree of it anyway.
I thought that her interview provided some thought provoking questions on feminism as a whole, such as Why the overkill on it, and when is it a fulfilling enough level of equality to just let it go?
Works Cited:
-Pang, David. “Betty White, Romance Coach”. Esquire Magazine, Web. 04May2011
-Pang, David. “Betty White, Romance Coach”. Esquire Magazine, Web. 04May2011
-“Chivalry Counts”. Chicago
Tribune Feature with Redbook Editor Susan Korones-Gifford, 06Nov1994.
It's true. Us girls beg for chivalry, yet we feel independent enough to say no to it. Your sources are good from what you can gather. I can see how you found it difficult to find them. Betty White is one of the best female icons I know of, and she does explain it best when saying where did the little acts of chivalry go. As for your essay, I think you should incorporate some ideas that men have about chivalry. Maybe what they think about it and how they react. Do they think of it as being an old tradition? Do they think that women should be more independent? Maybe add that side to your essay so both gender perspectives can have an idea about your topic.
ReplyDeleteGood input. I was actually searching for a guy's point of view. I've found more of that out there than a woman's. Haha.
ReplyDeleteI'll compose my next post with a little of that inside. It does seem a very important component!
As a man I have to agree women are confusing. I think you raise a good point but when comparing the independent woman of today with the modern man. I do however think the reason for some of the confusion is the outdated beliefs of chivalry. I think women back in that era were sterotypical damsels in distress needing a man to protect them. I don't think it's un-chivalrous for awoman to walk on the traffic side or even not open a door for a women. To clarify I think its the courteous thing to do regardless of gender but I do not think it should be neccessary.
ReplyDeleteI love that you used a quote from Betty White! the way I grew up was that if a guy was not a gentlemen, he did not respect you. my brothers are all very protective of me, and I think it is good training for them to learn how to put someone's needs ahead of your own. it is really selfless of a guy to notice things like when he walks on the traffic side. I think it shows respect!
ReplyDeleteGreat post and great sources.
Richard - I too think that chivalry in general might be viewed as outdated. I think we did make it almost extinct however, and that's just sad. We should find a middle ground somewhere between Damsel-in-Distress and old school courtesies. Not because it's necessary, but because it's nice. And by nice, I mean: Men that show chivalry instantly earn 100 points on the attractiveness scale. It's a win-win. Just sayin. ;)
ReplyDeleteMegs - Betty White is awesome, isn't she?
ReplyDeleteI too was raised with a bunch of brothers, who were taught to show respect to girls. (Didn't apply to sisters apparently) It really is a self-less thing, to show these manners. That being said, I do see the dilemma. Men have been told for decades that a woman will bite off your head if you insult her with outdated masculine gestures. I say bring 'em on!